So I’ve been here for a while and have noticed a trend with characters . Namely predator types fitting in a scale that goes from hunter to lure with trickster in the middle .
Is this completely arbitrary , DUH . Is it entertaining for people like me who enjoy research and lore , ABSOLUTELY.

Anyways , lemme know where some of your predators fit this . Or if any other characters fit this

Hunters actively go after prey using brute force to overpower their meals even chasing them down iif they try to run . They primarily feast on unwilling prey . Usually finding willing prey weird . Never releases prey unless they escape . Hunters Often view themselves as superior to their meals . Tends to be the least gluttonous abd once locked on a target won’t change targets. Usually eats around 1-3 prey a day. They target prey weaker than them . If forced will challenge a stronger meal. If successful they view anyone on that level as prey . They are only motivated by hunger and survival . They view other predators as equals so they don’t tend to eat preds. For them vore is simply about hunger nothing really personal

Lures passively draw prey in with their personality . Be it kindness , seduction , gentleness or care this lowers their guard enough that the lure can eat them if they want to and the prey likely won’t fight and often offer themselves as meals . unwilling prey tends to be released if asked nicely . They view everyone as people and tend to cherish their meals. Tends to eat 1 prey and enjoys them sometimes even dragging the process out . Their eating habits tend to be random but their friends and family often end up willing meals . They are only motivated by fun and life . Other predators are still vulnerable to their charms. For them vore is about intimacy and emotion

Tricksters situationally receive prey . They actively draw in prey like a lure . However a trickster only does so out of hunger rather than genuine personality . If a prey sees through it the opportunist resorts to brute force to grab their meal . Tricksters tend to be gluttonous and don’t release prey unless given a good reason . They view everyone as a future meal. They will eat everyone in an area if given the chance . They are motivated by gluttony and will eat other predators .
For them vore is about gluttony and fun

Interesting scale. I'm not sure if "hunter" conveys the idea you're going for, since a hunter can also use their guiles and lures rather than just brute-forcing everything, but I can picture most predators being on a scale from "cautiously lures preys" to "just grabs and overpowers preys in broad daylight". If we're adding other traits, though, like one being gentle and the other being mean, then we're talking more archetypes.

Doomed wrote:Lures passively draw prey in with their personality . Be it kindness , seduction , gentleness or care this lowers their guard enough that the lure can eat them if they want to and the prey likely won’t fight and often offer themselves as meals . unwilling prey tends to be released if asked nicely . They view everyone as people and tend to cherish their meals. Tends to eat 1 prey and enjoys them sometimes even dragging the process out . Their eating habits tend to be random but their friends and family often end up willing meals . They are only motivated by fun and life . Other predators are still vulnerable to their charms. For them vore is about intimacy and emotion

Honestly most luring preds I've seen tend to be just as cold as the straightforward preds, if not more. They act all nice to a potential prey, try to sell the experience as the best thing ever, then turn around and mercilessly digest the prey while laughing at their naivety. They also tend to become pretty OP in their own right due to eventually seducing powerful targets and absorbing their powers, which gives them free reign to behave like brute-force preds later in life. Though I guess you'd consider those more as tricksters?

i actually did think about that which is why made the archetypes more of a scale .hunter and lure on the extreme ends dont overlap but the more they fade from over lapping the more they fade into trickster opportunist

doomed wrote:i actually did think about that which is why made the archetypes more of a scale .hunter and lure on the extreme ends dont overlap but the more they fade from over lapping the more they fade into trickster opportunist

That's a cool angle and I didn't notice that, even if it's not perfectly symmetrical.

Hmmm, lately I've been into consensual vore. So I'm not sure if the preds of such a category would fall within such a spectrum.

That's a pretty interesting scale - it is the perfect balance of broad and specific, imo. Forced me to look at my preds differently and see how others might perceive them.

With that said, most of said preds fall under Lure with occasional outliers in the Trickster tier. They are hardly deceptive, though - the promises of safety are always upheld - and as you've mentioned, often do not go for unwilling prey... Unless they're the reluctant semi-unwilling kind which can be goaded into it.

They don't mean any harm; mostly doing it for fun or affection. Occasional nonlethal mana/stamina/energy drain is about as bad as it gets, even for the more bold predators who seek to sate their hunger through that siphoning process.

My pred boys don't really fit any of these. Lure started to sound like them a little, but then ultimately doesn't really fit because they don't release unwilling prey and don't end up with willing prey, nor affectionate mutual scenarios at all. Their eating habits aren't random, either, but very targeted toward who they really want. Their motivations aren't at all for 'fun', but very focused on the prey they really desire.

I have a deer boy who is a trickster by nature (half fae), but lures prey in with his innocent/helpful personality, bringing down their defenses until he gleefully turns the tables with an often unexpected dominant switch around. But he doesn't do it out of blind hunger, instead, moreso because he loves to unnerve and turn the tables on his lady meals after making them mistakenly feel very comfortable with him, and he's very possessive. If he wants, he will take without hesitation.

If there was a category for really possessive preds, that would fit most of mine (as it's my preferred way to enjoy vore). But all my preds enjoy unwilling prey and the thrill of taking prey that doesn't want to be taken. They love the hunt/chase, the struggle, and exertion, and ultimately the satisfaction of claiming their special prey and digesting them (be it fully fatal, sentient fat, or with reformation and memory wipe if they want to enjoy that prey again).

Chameleonette wrote:I have a deer boy who is a trickster by nature (half fae), but lures prey in with his innocent/helpful personality, bringing down their defenses until he gleefully turns the tables with an often unexpected dominant switch around. But he doesn't do it out of blind hunger, instead, moreso because he loves to unnerve and turn the tables on his lady meals after making them mistakenly feel very comfortable with him, and he's very possessive. If he wants, he will take without hesitation.

Would you say he wants to be togedeer forever with his prey?

I feel like this scale went too much on the deep end in trying to make complete archetypes, because on one end, I'm forced to be an active pursuer who doesn't care and isn't gluttonous while on the other, I'm forced to be a passive who cares but is also gluttonous, like those concepts seem glued together for no fucking reason I can discern other than fitting someone's headcanon.

What if I hunt and stalk someone specifically because I care, or am a roving hunger that hunts and feeds endlessly? What if I'm a lure but not gluttonous, but will vore only from time to time out of hedonism or as part of a wish fulfillment?

Anyways, I run preds that fill the full spectrum. But I think my overall current stage favors preds who are lures, but with more tempered hungers, and also they lead double-lives as gluttonous hunters. So think like a Bruce Wayne who will eat someone as like a thing between them, but at night he's vore Batman who will eat all the criminals but he will also specifically hunt the dangerous criminals. There, I put it in the terms of the stupid scale, out the window it goes for me again.

I honestly really like this, and as a broad-stroked swath, I think it serves its purpose very well! I think I'm gonna use it to analyze my own OCs from now on to a degree for sure! Kudos to you for making it! <3

My fursona is prey, so she doesn't count for this.

In my stories, I have a lot of hunter preds because I love the chase. They tend to go after willing prey though, as that's a preference of mine too. The rest are lure preds who tend to use charm and kindness to "catch" their prey.

I love this concept!

doomed wrote:So I’ve been here for a while and have noticed a trend with characters . Namely predator types fitting in a scale that goes from hunter to lure with trickster in the middle .
Is this completely arbitrary , DUH . Is it entertaining for people like me who enjoy research and lore , ABSOLUTELY.

Anyways , lemme know where some of your predators fit this . Or if any other characters fit this

Hunters actively go after prey using brute force to overpower their meals even chasing them down iif they try to run . They primarily feast on unwilling prey . Usually finding willing prey weird . Never releases prey unless they escape . Hunters Often view themselves as superior to their meals . Tends to be the least gluttonous abd once locked on a target won’t change targets. Usually eats around 1-3 prey a day. They target prey weaker than them . If forced will challenge a stronger meal. If successful they view anyone on that level as prey . They are only motivated by hunger and survival . They view other predators as equals so they don’t tend to eat preds. For them vore is simply about hunger nothing really personal

Lures passively draw prey in with their personality . Be it kindness , seduction , gentleness or care this lowers their guard enough that the lure can eat them if they want to and the prey likely won’t fight and often offer themselves as meals . unwilling prey tends to be released if asked nicely . They view everyone as people and tend to cherish their meals. Tends to eat 1 prey and enjoys them sometimes even dragging the process out . Their eating habits tend to be random but their friends and family often end up willing meals . They are only motivated by fun and life . Other predators are still vulnerable to their charms. For them vore is about intimacy and emotion

Tricksters situationally receive prey . They actively draw in prey like a lure . However a trickster only does so out of hunger rather than genuine personality . If a prey sees through it the opportunist resorts to brute force to grab their meal . Tricksters tend to be gluttonous and don’t release prey unless given a good reason . They view everyone as a future meal. They will eat everyone in an area if given the chance . They are motivated by gluttony and will eat other predators .
For them vore is about gluttony and fun

For me, Lethia is a Lure with soft trickster vibes. She does have a charm aura and aphrodisiacs in any fluid of her body, but she still goes out of her way to make vore as intimate and enjoyable as possible. She even has a kind of rule that, if anyone freaks out or changes their mind, especially through all the hypnosis and what not, than she let's them go. She will even (though it's exhausting for her) reform her prey, if doubt creeps in, allowing them to experience it with far less risk. If they decide they wanna do it for good, than she goes for it.

She definitely fits the catagory that no one is off limits, friends, family and so on, at least when I play her leaning more kink than cannon. Though as much as her motivation is equal parts 'i'm just hungry' and 'I love the sexuality/intimacy' she will always choose to make it as enjoyable as possible for her prey as a thank you, whether it's truly willing, or... encouraged through her powers.

Unless your an unsalvageable narcissistic asshole who finds joy in cruelty. Than the gloves come off and she embodies karma, you get what you give bitch!

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Chameleonette wrote:I have a deer boy who is a trickster by nature (half fae), but lures prey in with his innocent/helpful personality, bringing down their defenses until he gleefully turns the tables with an often unexpected dominant switch around. But he doesn't do it out of blind hunger, instead, moreso because he loves to unnerve and turn the tables on his lady meals after making them mistakenly feel very comfortable with him, and he's very possessive. If he wants, he will take without hesitation.

Would you say he wants to be togedeer forever with his prey?

Ayyyyy! I always appreciate puns (good and bad). They're very deer to me and I can't help but fawn over them. They might be a buck a dozen, but it's all good in my books.

Would love to see more 'hunters' if done right and written/drawn well, ones that actually stalk their prey first and all that too.

That aside, I'd say most preds in my ideas are more lures if not tricksters that lean towards lures and such bit will use force if feel its required. Others could be hunters as well depending on mood and the precise case, but in my scenarios doing the direct forceful approach usually isn't ideal as that's bound to get them at least heard if not actually seen and found out.

I have so many characters that I cover all ends of the spectrum, and honestly, I don't know if I even have a favorite. My main OC, Shi, does a little bit of everything depending on how hungry she is. If she's only in the mood for one or two prey, she'll settle for luring them in and catching them off guard. If she's REALLY hungry, though, all bets are off and she just starts munching on crowds.
I suppose that's the best way to sum up how my characters do it- they adapt to suit their current hunger level. Seeing as so many of them have the capability to devour people in hordes, they use subtler or cleverer tricks more to "play with their food" than out of necessity.

I think this scale is a bit restrictive in linking hunting style with appetite and attitude towards preys. I think an accumulation of various traits would be more accurate.

Anyways, most of my characters would fall under the hunter umbrella, for the simple reason that they are wild creatures and predators in a very biological sense, they roam the forest to search for preys. However, they would also use ambush tactics or try to lure in preys through actually hunting technics. Basically humans in the wild.

That said I've recently written a story with a predator that would indeed fit your "lure" category, but that's a special case.

Eh? I think the more clever hunter preds use a mix of charm and brute force. I guess I self insert more into the hunter role when reading/ creating characters. I do think it doesn't cover things like positions of power/ wealth over prey, extortion and blackmail. More cruel preds definitely hit hard mentally for the prey without having to resort to brute force. Feels like you would be better off with a series of scales for preds: Kind/cruel; Honest/ Dishonest; Safe/ Fatal. Maybe one more, but feels more true to what I see tagged in regular use here.

To be honest my biggest trickster character is a prey because there is no better way to overturn the established norms of vore than by having a prey character with actual agency and the power to fight off predators. Dominant prey is a fun oxymoron.

If I try to see how World of Alivia's preds match the topic's definitions, Lei is a trickster who started off as a lure. Shodi started off as a cold-blooded hunter, became an equal-opportunity trickster then much later mellowed out into more of a lure. The High Priestess of Khualkaur isn't overly gluttonous and looks down on her preys the most so I guess she's a hunter. Zela is an assassin who leans hunter or trickster depending on her number of targets. Creise, Li Li, Caelina and Lady Isa have elements of both hunter and lure but they're not tricksters (they'll welcome a willing meal just as gladly as they'll eat a slain foe, though they are pretty restrained with their gluttony otherwise). Tonalnan is all over the place (sometimes she'll relentlessly hunt down a foe, sometimes she'll seduce entire communities down her gullet, sometimes she'll be content with a willing prey or two). Sanako is probably a similar story. Yara Silverscale is a middle ground between a trickster and a lure. Anatune is a hunter minus one exception. Khirishan, the few times she's pred, prefers to go for willing meals who enjoy it, so she's more of a lure but not exclusively.

A lot of preds are the "bruteforce glutton" type (Liu, Tissa, Viviva, Zanva, Melony, Sho) which I guess is closest to trickster or to the left of it. Though I feel like that definitively should be its own archetype.