During the feast in the cave on the monster world if you are on good terms with Ella the doll will say she's going to the tent and you have the option to follow her. But that is only possible if you didn't tell Ella you hated her and if you didn't try to attack the doll earlier in the game.
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If he wasn't before he's definitely being set up now as a central villain so we'll almost certainly kill him at some point. The question is how...the dude is impossibly powerful, it's been suggested that he can't be defeated unless somehow allowed by the monster hierarchy(Syla even say something like "you wouldn't call on that kind of power, would you?") and if all that wasn't bad enough Indra isn't even the most powerful...he serves some sort of lord too so there are levels of power above him still.
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Indra's Lord is the 2nd, The Power, the same being that infected Michael. What's worse is that Indra can Incarnate. Im not sure what exactly it means, but given that Indra is described to be both a Chosen and a Vessel, I believe it means he can allow himself to be posessed by the 2nd momentarily, bringing his God's strength into battle.
Right...incarnate is the word. Indra said Syla couldn't win because she's not incarnate or something like that. Which means that to defeat Indra we'll have to deal with whatever that is...and your assessment is most likely accurate. We'll probably have to contend with an apostle. If not worse. And Michael or other companions can become problems too. Though this update does have one conversation option that gives "+1 Michael emotion"...an entirely new stat the game starts tracking in the background. I'm guessing that will be relevant in the end game when the monster patrons all try to claim control over the members of the MC's party.
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This is intriguing, i wonder why Syla was so certain Indra wouldn't use this incarnation power.
My guess is that either the incarnation consumes the host, erasing their identity an leaving only the apostle, or because it's supposed to happen only when the apostle decides, so using at will would be against the wishes of Power.
If it erases the indentity then i'm starting to think that maybe Eye might actually be Body and the reason he never uses memory powers when he incarnates Mc is because he is not good at it.
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Well, Indra's quote was something more like "An apostate like you cannot Incarnate", so I assume having the power to Incarnate has to do with your faith and belief in your Apostol/God. Syla, who turned her back on the Apostoles and became a heretic wouldnt have the power to do so, since she had fallen out of the favor of the gods, unlike Indra who is an extreme zealot.
I more believe Indra didnt Incarnate he didnt believe it was necessary and it could have been disrespectful. Why bring forth the power of your Lord to kill one puny heretic who you can slaughter all on your own? He proboably saw it akin to telling your dad to go beat up someone who you could beat in a fight with one hand tied behind your back.
Hard to say for sure but I have two possible theories for why Syla said that. 1) She didn't actually believe he wouldn't use it, it was just a comment to make light of the situation which seemed pretty central to her nature as she always made light of everything, never gloomy or serious. 2) Given that she called him "Indi", which sounds like an endearing nickname one might use for a friend, it's possible that Syla and Indra were actually very old friends that go back centuries or millennia but he gave himself completely to his patron so when Syla became a target of the 2nd, Indra could no longer resist or cared to...his identity was entirely consumed by his patron. This is something Ella warned the MC quite early in the game...she said the monsters want level 5 superhumans and to be prepared because they would come to claim him. Indra or this concept of being an incarnate is probably what that means...and the MC and companions will probably have to contend with their patrons trying to claim control over them at some point.
I mean the word apostate literally means one who renounced his/her faith...which is entirely in line with Syla as we know she was abandoned by the 4th as a failure so yes, she most likely could not be an incarnate, whatever that means precisely. Nonetheless it is troubling to hear Indra say that he could not be defeated by someone not backed by an apostle.
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I think this fits dead end 43, be an apostle or arbiter the eye takes over Mc erasing his identity, it also fits the descriptions of the big three:
Malik is completed but kept whole by faith, a reference to his morality keeping his identity
Henri is ascended yet unborn, reference to the fact that whatever is supposed to take over is ready to be born at any moment since he is already ascended
Bernhardt is old but unbound, i guess this is about how corruption piles up the more time passes, so it should bind the will of the superhuman to whatever being wants to take over.
Yet each one somehow found a way to keep the process at bay, for decades now.
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No, I think that more than memory is something like genetics, the same reason for why all of strenght eaters seem to be weak to it. But like Syla did at the end, MC will most definitively overcome it
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I like how her power basically says "No."
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I guess we might especulate to the contrary actually:
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Yeah no I still see it as her creating her own weakness after a trauma and then overcoming it
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If WW ever confirms that Syla developed a mutation to allow her to resist lightning JUST because she wanted to connect with "Indi" better this will kill me of sweetness overload.
Who thinks Mc will evolve into level 4 after seeing all these memories? If I remember correctly one of the requirements for evolution is heavy physical or emotional trauma, seeing the memory of your own mother die would fit into the emotional trauma. In fact the next update is 1.0 and I always thought the MC would have an evolution in it, If so Superhuman 2 would be the MC's journey to reach Level 5 ,what do you think?
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Nah, MC will evolve during some massive fight of his own. He won't just evolve the boring way after some memories.